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Call
Time: 1500 UTC
Attendees
PMC Members
- David Williams: Y
- Naci Dai: Y
- Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y
- Neil Hauge: Y
- Tim deBoer: Y
- Kaloyan Raev N
Announcements and General Business
- Planning Council: WTP consensus on simultaneous release? raising the bar?
Consensus was that yes, bar should be raised, but use care so that not a barrier to participation.
- PMC check of status meeting discussion of bug
241335
Consensus that developers are handling correctly, though we might want to plan better for that use-case, if for no other reason, to make it clear where others might contribute.
- WTP Patch build already! See bug 255537
PMC approval to put on update site (along with 3.0.3 release)?
Approval granted
- Reminder: need EclipseCon submissions by Nov. 24th!
Reports, Actions, Issues
Education: Naci Dai
Naci reports web pages for education materials are about ready. He is writing article, as deadline is in December. Raghu was only response he got for being interested in contributing too.
Please review: Resource Page Proposal
Naci was approached (and countered) with some proposed articles for Eclipse (online) magazine [need link. only one I found last published in 2007?] Naci will invite authors for a series of articles for "WTP Uncovered":
- web developer tools (xml, xsl, html, css)
- web applications with Java (jsf, jsp, server)
- enterprise application (jpa/ejb)
- soa, webservices
- adopters/extending (maybe)
Naci updated us today: Publisher would like all articles in one issue (for an issued focused on WTP). Online version would be in English. Print version would be translated to German. They'd like one overview article less than 20,000 words, and 4 shorter, but more focused article on specific areas, each less than 10,000 words
Naci will have some Eductation site/materials ready next week.
New Bugzilla component created: "Education".
We will publish education materials under Creative Commons -- Attribution Share Alike but still EPL for sample code, examples and snippets.
Reference
Requirements: Raghu Srinivasan
Raghu noted we should remind PLs to update plans every milestone.
Planning Process Document has been started.
Eclipse-level dates and requirements have been clarified in a Planning Council message (and elsewhere).
Reference
Planning: David Williams
- 3.0.3 to be released this Friday.
Please keep up with PMC Approvals
long term items to track
- XUL Runner IP nearing completion
Reference
Quality: Neil Hauge
- Notes:
- See previous notes for statistics.
It is be important for us to do by 'sub-project' to compare within our own WTP projects, as well as to other top level ones
- Neil investigating "close old bugs" policy.
- Neil has estimated approximately 800 bugs (of 2000 untargeted bugs) could be considered "old bugs". He'll prepare a table and note to send to project with encouragement to PLs to handle ... something like either triage individually and assign a target, or mark with 'helpwanted' or mark in mass with a kind comment to re-open if still an issue (with reason for the mass update, etc.).
Reference:
- WTP Quality Lead
- See also Quality Page
WTP User Experience Lead: Kaloyan Raev
- Had UI Walkthrough
- Started collecting usage data
References
Architecture: Tim deBoer
- API Tools. Tim to investigate and make recommendations to teams.
Reference
- WTP Architecture Lead Role
- Tracking meetings and work at WTP Architecture Working Group
General business?
bugs to watch
- Discussed need for bug 152461
- Also need to watch bug 245645
- Also need to watch bug 245573
Other projects to watch:
PMC Calendar
- Eclipse World
Raghu, Naci, and Neil have submitted. - Eclipse European Summit.
Kaloyan "wtp project"
Naci will attend but (probably) not present.
Cameron is attending and presenting JSF. - EclipseCon 2009. September we'll start recruiting talks.
Back to meeting list.
Please send any additions or corrections to David Williams.