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WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for December 02, 2008 Conference Call

WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for December 02, 2008 Conference Call
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Call Info

Tollfree in the US: 877-421-0030
Alternate: 770-615-1247
Access code: 173098#
Full list of phone numbers

Call Time: 1500 UTC

Attendees

PMC Members

  • David Williams: N
  • Naci Dai: N
  • Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y
  • Neil Hauge: Y
  • Tim deBoer: Y
  • Kaloyan Raev: Y

Announcements and General Business

  • EclipseSummit

    2 days, 30 sponsors
    surprisingly well attended, 400+ attendees
    Kaloyan gave WTP update to about 40-50 attendees, but not much general interest in WTP
    good quality and content of other talks
    interest in embedded devices (OSGi, runtime) and Eclipse plugin development
    Cameron attended too, modeling was also an interest

  • Discussed opportunities with a course at York University
  • Neil raised issues with Dali moving to new validation framework, Tim will ask Gary to follow up with help

Reports, Actions, Issues

Architecture: Tim deBoer

  • API Tools. Tim to investigate and make recommendations to teams.
  • Tim investigated API tools. There is a wizard that adds a builder to each plugin you select to add API tools support. There were some minor changes to move up to the tools (e.g. adding @noimplement javadoc tag) and taking a baseline, but it did catch missing @since tags, broken API, plugin versions that should be incremented, etc. Would recommend for 3.1 development.
  • Next step is to try with plugins that have more API issues, non-internal packages that shouldn't be public, etc. to see if the impact to development teams is acceptable.
  • Also need to investigate build impact.

Reference

Education: Naci Dai

Naci reports web pages for education materials are about ready. He is writing article, as deadline is in December. Raghu was only response he got for being interested in contributing too.

Please review: Resource Page Proposal

Naci was approached (and countered) with some proposed articles for Eclipse (online) magazine [need link. only one I found last published in 2007?] Naci will invite authors for a series of articles for "WTP Uncovered":

  1. web developer tools (xml, xsl, html, css)
  2. web applications with Java (jsf, jsp, server)
  3. enterprise application (jpa/ejb)
  4. soa, webservices
  5. adopters/extending (maybe)

Naci updated us today: Publisher would like all articles in one issue (for an issued focused on WTP). Online version would be in English. Print version would be translated to German. They'd like one overview article less than 20,000 words, and 4 shorter, but more focused article on specific areas, each less than 10,000 words

Naci will have some Eductation site/materials ready next week.

New Bugzilla component created: "Education".

We will publish education materials under Creative Commons -- Attribution Share Alike but still EPL for sample code, examples and snippets.

Reference

Requirements: Raghu Srinivasan

Raghu noted we should remind PLs to update plans every milestone.

Planning Process Document has been started.

Eclipse-level dates and requirements have been clarified in a Planning Council message (and elsewhere).

Discussed options for including milestone dates and common info in project milestone plans vs linking to the overall WTP plan.

Reference

Planning: David Williams

long term items to track

  • XUL Runner IP nearing completion

Reference

Quality: Neil Hauge

Notes:
See previous notes for statistics.

It is be important for us to do by 'sub-project' to compare within our own WTP projects, as well as to other top level ones

Neil investigating "close old bugs" policy.
Neil has estimated approximately 800 bugs (of 2000 untargeted bugs) could be considered "old bugs". He'll prepare a table and note to send to project with encouragement to PLs to handle ... something like either triage individually and assign a target, or mark with 'helpwanted' or mark in mass with a kind comment to re-open if still an issue (with reason for the mass update, etc.).

Reference:

WTP User Experience Lead: Kaloyan Raev

References

General business?

bugs to watch

Other projects to watch:

PMC Calendar

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Please send any additions or corrections to David Williams.

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